May 2012—Cha Jones
Have you
ever wanted to know what goes on at an Embassy or imagined being invited to an
Embassy party to rub elbows with a diplomat? Well, if any of that interests
you, then you may want to think about a career as a Foreign Service Officer.
Foreign
Service Officers are diplomats employed by the U.S. Department of State. As a
Foreign Service Officer you could work at any one of the 265 U.S. embassies and
consulates around the world working on the implementation of foreign policy, insuring
the interests of the U.S. government abroad, as well as assisting American
citizens who are living and working in foreign countries.
As a Foreign
Service Officer, there are five different career tracks that you may enter: Consular
officer, Economic officer, Management officer, Political Officer, and Public
Diplomacy Officer. If you are interested in learning more, please click on the link below.
From English Teacher to Foreign Service Officer—Joia Starks, U.S. Consular Office in Barbados
Joia Starks is
a 2005 graduate of Hampton University. During her studies, she had an
opportunity to study abroad in Mexico with a Spanish immersion program and
after graduating from college, she spent 5 weeks studying abroad in Paris. Shortly
after she graduated with a degree in
Marketing she moved to New York City and worked in corporate America for a
couple of years, but after waking up in tears with no desire to go to work, she
realized that she was unfulfilled. She missed being abroad and being in another
culture experiencing new things.
So, in
October 2007 she actually moved to South Korea to teach English as a second language
for a year. It was nothing like the stories that she read in her youth, which
is what began her adventures abroad, but it was the beginning of what would
actually change her life forever.
Teaching English in Korea
Joia, describe how you felt when you moved
to Korea?
“I was super
nervous. I had a lot of anxiety because I had never been to Asia and I didn’t
speak Korean and I didn’t know anyone other than one person who I met on Dave’s
ESL Café. I think my friends and family were more worried than I was, but
because they were so nervous it made me not as nervous. I was really excited
because I was embarking on what could be the most amazing adventure of my
life.”
What was the best thing about living
in Korea?
“There are
so many great things about Korea. I really developed a good core group of
friends, both expats and Koreans, which felt like family. We just clicked right
away. That made the experience good. I love the food, and the vibrancy of the
city. Seoul is a pretty safe place to be and I liked going out on the town
eating all night and drinking. If I wanted to go to museums, I was able to do
that as well.”
Was there anything negative about
being abroad or being in Korea?
Yeah, I
think anywhere, there are going to be some downsides. I would say the hardest
thing about being and living anywhere abroad is the transition when you are
trying to get settled and comfortable in this new place and it’s not yet clicking.
So, my first four or five months it was a little rough because I didn’t have my
core group of friends, I was missing home, I couldn’t read anything and I could
barely go to the grocery store without having a melt-down. So, I think that
adjusting in a new place can be a bit of a negative experience if you are just
not use to it.”
What was the biggest difference from living
abroad and being back home in New Jersey or was there a difference?
“I would say
the biggest difference would obviously be the language. I moved to Korea not knowing
Korean. Yeah, I had my little travel guide, but when you try to use it, you
sound really silly. Another thing is not driving and still trying to get around
the city and my little neighborhood and not that I was ever the majority in
America, but in Korea I was really a minority and that was kind of difficult at
first.”
When you left Korea what was the
biggest thing that you took away from Korea, as far as your experience?
Basically,
living in Korea is when I decided I wanted to join the State Department. So, it
gave me a sense of purpose. I went to Korea wanting to challenge myself and discover
new things about myself. I think I
realized that I was cut out for this type of lifestyle and I really wanted to
live abroad as a career and find ways to make a difference in people’s lives in
a non-traditional way. So, my biggest takeaway was building my confidence and
feeling like I set out to do something, I accomplished it, and I have come out
with a better sense of who I am and what I am capable of doing.”
Transition from Teacher to Consular
Officer
Let’s talk now about you working for
the Department of Defense State as a Foreign Service Officer
“I am a
Consular Officer, and that basically means that I help out American citizens
abroad. As a Consular Officer we do immigrant
and non-immigrant visas and then American citizen services, which is probably
the biggest thing we do.
How did you actually get a State
Department job?
It’s
actually an interesting story. When I was living in Korea I was on my way to house
warming party. I’m standing in the
middle of downtown Seoul and I have really no idea where I am going. All that I
had was a sheet of paper with some directions and I was about to take a bus
when I see this other black woman on the
bus stop. I’m kind of looking at her and I am thinking, “She’s black and I am
black and she is probably a teacher too.” Well, it turns out she is not a teacher,
she actually worked for the U.S. Embassy there, and ironically we were both
going to the same party. So, we became friends and through her guidance I
applied for something called the, “Rangel Fellowship,” which is a program that really seeks out talented minority students
for the Foreign Service, and it has a sister fellowship that does that same
thing called the , “Pickering Fellowship”. I applied for that and it was a
lot of hard work, and luck and really great people and mentoring and some
disappointment, but I got it and it set me on a path to go to the Foreign
Service.
So, did you still have to take the
Foreign Service Exam?
“Yes, the
program basically sends you to graduate school and you have to study International
Affairs., You do that for two years, complete two internships, take the Foreign
Service officer exam (both the written and then the oral assessment), and then
once you graduate ,you can join the Foreign Service.”
What is the biggest difference, and I
know it’s a BIG difference, between when you were traveling and living abroad
as a teacher and now, traveling and living as a Foreign Service officer?
“This is like my dream job and so that to me is worth giving up a sense of privacy.”
It’s totally
different. When you are a regular Joe Smoe traveling around, you have a lot
more leeway with your private and personal life, but now that I am with the
State Department, you know you are never really off duty. The things that you
say and do, people are watching you. Even in our training they tell us “You are
the face of the government all the time and you really have to be careful.” It
is a different level of responsibility to be the face, the eyes and ears of the
President and the Secretary of State and at end of the day the American people.
It’s really a very humbling and daunting challenge, but I guess the trade of f is
that I am doing my dream work. This is my dream job and so that to me is worth
giving up a sense of privacy.”
Did you ever foresee this coming? Had
you not had the chance encounter with the young lady on the bus stop, do you
still think that this would have happened for you, being in your dream
job? Do you think you would have
followed down this path anyways?
“I would
like to think I would have ended up on this path anyways. As I was preparing to
leave Korea I was studying for the GRE’s and I knew I wanted to go into
International Relations. State Department was at the top of that list, but I also
knew that it was a really difficult thing to do, and it’s hard to get into. So,
I was trying to build up my skills and my resume so that I could be a good
candidate. It might have taken longer, that’s for sure, but I think eventually
I would have ended up in this career.”
What are the benefits of actually
working for the State Department?
“Oh, there
are so many. I’m still pretty early on in my career, but first of all your
co-workers are all these really smart people, really fun to work with, and to m
e that makes all the difference in the world. It doesn’t really matter what you
are doing usually, if you work with people that you like that makes your job
better. So, all of my co-workers are pretty ambitious and they speak many different
languages, they are traveled and we already come from a place of common ground.
That is definitely a great benefit for me, being able to just relate to people
off jump.
“I ended up in Barbados for my first tour, but next I could be in Russia or Venezuela. I like the fact that I get to move and do a totally different job every two years.”
The other
benefit is that you are living abroad, and there is something for everyone out
there. I ended up in Barbados for my first tour, but next I could be in Russia
or Venezuela. I like the fact that I get to move and do a totally different job
every two years. For me, that is exactly what I need, because after about two
years I am antsy and ready to see something new. And then of course, there are
the perks of them covering your housing. So, that is something you don’t have
to worry about being abroad. Also, the money is good, you get to do work that
is making a difference every single day, and that may sound really cheesy, but
it’s nice to see that. Because I have been in jobs before that I really didn’t
see that, and it makes a difference. “
Great, that brings me to this
question; did you actually enjoy teaching when you were living in Korea?
Actually, I
really did. Of course, I had days when I was not the best teacher and I know I struggled,
but I really loved my kids. I actually have pictures of them hanging on my
refrigerator now, because they really made my life interesting and exciting. I
got to work with kindergarten all the way to high school kids, and they were
all really sweet. I always said, “Even the bad kids in Korea are still really
good kids.” So, I enjoyed teaching and I think it would be good, maybe when I
am older. I wish I had known a little
more about teaching, I took a 6 month TESOL course, which did an okay job, but
doesn’t really prepare you for when you are in front of students. But I loved
teaching and I’d do it again. “
What advice would you give another
young lady who is trying to make a decision to go abroad, based on your
experience, what would you tell them?
If someone
is on the fence on whether to do something or not. Well, this is kind of going
to sound reckless, but I would say, “Just do it!” Because whatever is holding
you back from doing it, probably feels much scarier in your head, what you
built up something to be, usually it’s not as bad as you think it is. The mind
is so powerful, and you can search the internet and be looking at pictures,
listening to stories and reading blogs and whatever. You’re trying to piece together
what you think this place is like, but truthfully you’re not getting the full
picture. You are only getting snippets. So, if you are on the fence about
going, then you just have to do it. Because if I let what people were saying
about Korea stop me from going, like i.e. they
don’t like black people, you are going to have a terrible time, or you can’t
date there as a black women. All of these things that you hear will prevent
you from going and experiencing it for yourself.”
What advice would you give to someone
who is teaching and is content, but not actually following their passion at
this time, but would like to be in their dream job?
I would say
to really reach out to people who are doing what you think you want to be
doing. What really matters is making connections. So, if you know someone, have
a friend of a friend, or there’s a forum, such as, Women of Color Living Abroad, then make connections. For one,
that provides motivation for you to do what you want to and maybe step out and
take that risk, and two it keeps you connected to what is happening in that
industry. So, if you want to be a Master Scuba Diver, then get on a forum and
talk to people who are doing what you want to do. I can’t stress that enough.
It is really important that you maintain contact and connections with people
who are doing things that you want to do. So, throughout my travels I would
talk to people and ask them, “What are you doing, what do you want to do, do
you know about this, or can you tell me about that?” I think you have to just
stay inquisitive and stay connected to your passion even if you are not doing
what is your passion from day to day.”
What are three adjectives that you
would use to describe your Expat Experience?
“Comical- I
have some funny stories living abroad, dynamic, and exhilarating”
Ok, finish this sentence. Living
abroad has…
“Living
abroad has been the best decision I have ever made.”
Just do it indeed!
ReplyDeleteI truly appreciated reading this. I have an undergrad in Public Policy w/an emphasis in Education. I was just considering what I wanted to do in grad school and this is definitely helping me zoom in. Thanks alot.
ReplyDeleteThanks! Follow your dream you can do it! We need more women who look like us to make it in these fields!
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DeleteI am going to college this fall to study International Relations and just seeing another woman of color doing exactly what I want to do is inspiring and reassuring =) Thank you!!!
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DeleteWhat a great story! I'm only in the beginning stages of becoming a Foreign Service Officer (I passed the exam & am now waiting to see if I am invited to DC for the Oral assessment), but I actually think I met that black FSO when I was living in Seoul, Korea. She issued me an emergency passport after my visa was stolen!
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ReplyDeleteYou have a very inspiring story - thank you for the sharing this! My wife and I are at the point in our lives where we want change...we want to do things that matter and fill our lives with new experiences. We feel we can accomplish both by living abroad and either teaching english as a foreign language or working as foreign service officer...at the moment, I'm leaning towards the latter...and then I came across your story where you did both!
Even though I'd prefer to be an FSO, I'm still planning to get my TEFL certification, since it'd be good to have anyway, perhaps as a back up... may I ask if you have any thoughts or advice to share about both TEFL and FSO?
Thank you!
Thanks Johnny for reading the blog!
DeleteHowever, I was the interviewer and not the interviewee. I did however teach abroad and I manage this blog. Joia was the one I interviewed and yes she did go from ESL teacher to FSO and I am sure that you and your wife can do the same. I think that there are many options out there and the journey can take you anywhere, but I think you should do your research to see what will be your best fit for you. Teaching can open the door to many different things and help you save while you think about what you want to do, so don't rule it go. But as you can see you can do both. Again, thanks for reading and we hope that you continue to stop by and find more information that will help you in the future.
Good traveling,
Cha
Hi Cha,
DeleteThank you for the advice and taking the time to respond. I will continue to explore my options and reach out to as many people as I can. I think your blog is a great resource! And yes, I realized after posting that Joia Starks was the subject of the interview... my mistake. May I ask if you're able to put me in touch with Joia?
Thanks again!
Johnny
Not a problem and you can contact Joia at https://www.facebook.com/joia.starks, she is a very approachable young lady.
DeleteWow inspiring! I am a Korean American and have been living in Korea for the past decade. I attended both undergraduate and graduate school here and seoul and. majored in international cooperation.
ReplyDeleteCan I have more information about this diplomat party that you mentioned? I should definitely check it out.
Also as a diplomat can you choose your country of choice? Since I speak Korean the obvious choice would be to work in Seoul.
Also did you happen to take the FSO exam in Korea?
Thanks!
This was a great entry. It is amazing how many different opportunities there are out there for people who would like to live overseas and not teach English. Thanks for a new perspective.
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ReplyDeleteIts so difficult for me keeping my natural hair that most of the time when travelling it's in plaits,
Hi everyone!!
ReplyDeleteJoia here...I'm sorry I hadn't checked back frequently to see your responses. But thank you so much! As Cha said, you can find me on Facebook - Joia Starks - and I have an old blog from my teaching days, too. It's called The Seoul of Black Folks. I haven't updated it much since being in Barbados, but it chronicles my teaching adventures :)
Hope everyone is well!!
J
“Living abroad has been the best decision I have ever made.”
ReplyDeleteAwesome to hear it. Almost everyone that has done it, says the same thing.
My dream job.
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